Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 48: Thinking About the Future with Sam Grizzle
In 2009, I made my first cross-country journey to Las Vegas for the World Series of Poker. It wasn��t my first time in Vegas, but it was my first time going exclusively for poker. Given my position with PokerNews, I��ve spent the last six years in Sin City, though since then I flown out each time to avoid the grueling 1,710-mile trek from Wisconsin.
Interestingly, on that first road trip I stopped at Horseshoe Council Bluffs where I promptly lost $400 playing $1/$3 no-limit hold��em. At the time it was more than 10% of my entire bankroll. Coincidentally, a few days ago I was back at that venue, which is among my favorites in the Midwest, while once again making the long drive to Vegas �� I��ve relocated here for good. Once again I lost $400, which fortunately represents a lot less of my net worth nowadays.
Anyway, during the game I ran across a familiar face in Sam Grizzle, who you might be surprised to learn has amassed $1,287,290 in live tournament winnings dating back to 1988. What��s more, he did so without a single six-figure score. Say what you want about the man �� and believe me the tales of him being broke, hustling, borrowing money, and so on are endless �� that is an impressive fact.
Anyway, on this day Grizzle, who you may better remember from the ESPN broadcast of the 2003 WSOP and as the only man with whom Phil Hellmuth has gotten into a fist fight �� was seated at the $1/$3 game and I was looking forward to playing against the grizzled veteran. Of course I was mindful to take notes on a few hands, which I thought I��d examine in this week��s edition of Hold��em With Holloway.
Hand #1: In one hand, the button straddled to $15 and there were five callers, including Grizzle who as it turned out held K?10?. The Kx10x4x flop hit him hard, and after the small blind checked, the player in the big bet $25. Grizzle then raised to $75, and everyone else folded except the big blind, who called. Another Kx on the turn gave Grizzle a full house, and he bet a measly $15 after his opponent checked. A call was made, and then the big blind moved all in on the 2? river. Grizzle nonchalantly called off his remaining $120, and was shipped the double after the big blind��s KxJx proved no good.
My Take: I don��t mind Grizzle��s call preflop. The game was playing pretty loose, and there were a couple of bad players with big stacks. If you were able to flop a big hand, chances were good you��d get paid, and Kx10x-suited is a nice hand with which to speculate. I also like Grizzle��s raise on the flop. There was a lot of money in the pot already, so no need in allowing anyone a cheap turn, especially those who might want to draw to some sort of gutshot Broadway draw.
Grizzle cleared the field except for the flop bettor. At first I wasn��t a fan of Grizzle��s tiny bet on the turn, mainly because it essentially turned his hand face up, but after considering it more I really don��t mind it. Such a tiny bet was begging for a call, but it was also enticing for any ten or straight draw, both of which would have been drawing dead. If the big blind happened to have the last remaining king, well that would be even better. The key was Grizzle would need to determine the right bet size on the river, a decision rendered moot when the big blind shoved all in.
In all honesty the action on the turn and river doesn��t really matter in this hand given the game and stakes. The chips were going in and Grizzle was going to double. Still, it was interesting to watch the wily veteran get cute on the turn.
Hand #2: A player in early position raised to $12 and I called with pocket sevens. Another player came along, then Grizzle three-bet to $60 from the hijack. The player in the big blind just flatted, then the original raiser tank-shoved all in for roughly $250 which prompted me to ditch the walking sticks. Grizzle moved all in over the top, the big blind called off for $200, and just like that there was a juicy pot on the line.
The 2?3?K? flop saw the big blind excitedly reveal his A?K?, and his delight understandably grew when the A? on the turn gave him two pair. The river was a 5?, and the original raiser simply mucked his hand. Without a word, Grizzle rolled over K?K? for a set and the win. Needless to say, the big blind was deflated while Grizzle pulled in the pot, which increased his stack to nearly $1,000.
My Take: The original raiser was an aggressive player, so I opted to flat with sevens in the hope of pricing in others and then flopping a set. Instead, Grizzle squeezed in position, which I actually respected given how tight he��d been playing. After the big blind flatted, I figured I��d take a flop if the original raiser just called. If he folded, I would do the same. Instead, he shoved all in, which made my decision easy.
What I really enjoyed about this hand was the fact that Grizzle sat silently after flopping top set. He allowed the player in the big blind to get his hopes up, and then promptly crushed his dreams. It wasn��t malicious so much as a lesson �� don��t count your chickens before they hatch. Anyway, I couldn��t help but smile as Grizzle, who was supposed to be a washed-up and vocal poker pro, stacked his chips.
Words of Wisdom: Shortly after sitting down, I saw Grizzle reach into his pocket and pull out a rubber band. He began to fiddle with it in between his fingers, and eventually his neighbor asked him why he was all banded up.
��Just thinking about the future,�� Grizzle quipped, which to my disappointment was the only words he said during the game. Still, it was pretty funny, and as it turned out his wishful thinking paid off as he was the game��s big winner (at least up until I left a $400 loser).
I realize there wasn��t a whole lot of strategy discussed in this article �� aside from maybe being wary of small turn bets and not underestimating ��washed-up�� poker pros �� but I had a Sam Grizzle experience, and I just wanted to share it with the world.
Have you had a Sam Grizzle experience? If so, tell me about it in the comments or on Twitter @ChadAHolloway.
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In this Series
- 1 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 1: Making Reads and Trusting Them
- 2 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 2: Playing in Poker Charity Events
- 3 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 3: Throttle Back Before You End Up Punting
- 4 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 4: Punish the Satellite Bubble
- 5 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 5: What is Proper Accumulator Strategy?
- 6 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 6: A Chip and a Chair Story with ��SirWatts��
- 7 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 7: 15 Things About Poker I Wish I��d Known Sooner
- 8 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 8: Examining the Largest Overlay in Poker History
- 9 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 9: Differences Between Rebuys and Reentries
- 10 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 10: Five Must-Read Poker Books of 2014
- 11 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 11: When Will You Finally Break Through?
- 12 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 12: Dealing with a Target on Your Back
- 13 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 13: Knowing When to Call It Quits
- 14 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 14: Embarking on a Year-Long Weight Loss Journey
- 15 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 15: Navigating Multiple Decision Points in a Poker Hand
- 16 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 16: Chris Moorman Tells Me How Badly I Play Poker
- 17 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 17: Richard ��nutsinho�� Lyndaker on Getting It in Marginal
- 18 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 18: Getting Inside the Head of Poker Pro Brian Rast
- 19 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 19: Stupid Calls & Lucky Draws in MSPT WI Championship
- 20 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 20: Talking Ante-Only Strategy with Greg ��FossilMan�� Raymer
- 21 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 21: Contributing to Jonathan Little��s New Book
- 22 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 22: Consequences of Acting Out of Turn & Tossing in Chips
- 23 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 23: When It Comes to Chops, Do What��s In Your Best Interest
- 24 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 24: Accepting Bad Beats & Lessons in Selling Action
- 25 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 25: Heinz�� Ace-High Call Shows Why He's a World Champ
- 26 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 26: Is Keeping the Short Stack Alive Collusion?
- 27 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 27: Great Laydown or Bad Fold on Poker Night in America?
- 28 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 28: Calling Hellmuth with Jack-Deuce Offsuit
- 29 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 29: The Philosophy of "No-Chop" Chad
- 30 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 30: Preparing to Play the World Series of Poker
- 31 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 31: Staying on Your Grind at the World Series of Poker
- 32 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 32: The Perilous Decision to Call Off with Ace-Queen
- 33 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 33: Using Poker Skills in Reality TV Competitions
- 34 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 34: Esfandiari Explains How to Recover from Bad Beats
- 35 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 35: Tilly vs. Brunson in Super High Roller Cash Game Hand
- 36 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol 36: Unconventional Play Leads to Good WSOP Main Event Start
- 37 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 37: Lessons in Pot-Limit Omaha Hi-Low w/ Evan Jarvis
- 38 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 38: Things to Say and Do When You Bust a Poker Tournament
- 39 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 39: How Much Did I Have to Raise to Get You to Fold?
- 40 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 40: Practicing Patience in My Deep PPC Poker Tour Run
- 41 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 41: Analyzing a Questionable SHRPO Main Event Hand
- 42 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 42: Analyzing the Play of Neymar Jr. at EPT Barcelona
- 43 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 43: The Value of a Reliable Poker Reputation
- 44 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 44: John ��KasinoKrime�� Beauprez Rips My PLO Game Apart
- 45 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 45: Satellite Dilemmas -- To Call or Not to Call
- 46 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 46: Seiver Leverages the River in Super High Roller Bowl
- 47 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 47: What Untraditional Moves in Poker Might Mean
- 48 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 48: Thinking About the Future with Sam Grizzle
- 49 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 49: WCOOP Champ ��Coenaldinho7�� Offers Up His Biggest Hands
- 50 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 50: The Peril of Shoving Weak Aces
- 51 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 51: The Importance of Not Giving Up in Poker Tournaments
- 52 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 52: Does Asking ��Check�� Actually Constitute a Check?
- 53 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 53: Thomas Cannuli Impresses Even After Main Event Bustout
- 54 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 54: Dealers Aren��t Always Right
- 55 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 55: Don��t Get Married to Pocket Aces
- 56 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 56: Bazeley��s Survival Instinct Leads to Continued Success
- 57 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 57: Playing ��Deuces Wild�� on the European Poker Tour
- 58 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 58: The Wildest Hand in European Poker Tour History
- 59 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 59: Death, Zombies & Spending Time w/Phil Hellmuth
- 60 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 60: How the Unstoppable Fedor Holz Managed to Win Again
- 61 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 61: Lessons To Be Learned When You Hit the Big Stage
- 62 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 62: Steve O��Dwyer Explains the ��Oreo Cookie Tell��
- 63 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 63: What Would Happen to a Chip Stack If a November Niner Died?
- 64 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 64: Forgetting One Chip -- Should It Still Be an All-In Bet?
- 65 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 65: Todd ��sharkslayerrr�� Breyfogle on Bankroll Management
- 66 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 66: Cash Game Pro Daniel Arfin Offers Sound Bankroll Advice
- 67 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 67: Honeyman Plays Kings to Keep in Opponent��s Bluff Range
- 68 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 68: Why Do I Even Bother Drinking at the Poker Table?
- 69 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 69: Is Your Favorite Poker Pro Left- or Right-Handed?
- 70 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 70: In Order to Live You Have to Be Willing to Die
- 71 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 71: How to Amass a Big Stack Early in a Poker Tournament
- 72 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 72: Answering User-Submitted Poker Scenarios
- 73 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 73: Saying Goodbye with a Top Five List
- 74 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 74: We're Back, Baby!
- 75 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 75: Jivkov on Exploiting Capped Ranges
- 76 Hold��em with Holloway, Vol. 76: Matt Bretzfield Gets Tricky With Aces
- 77 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 77: Joseph Cheong Gets Crazy with a Pair of Ladies
- 78 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 78: Wyoming Poker Action & Wild South Dakota Hand
- 79 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 79: Calling Controversy at WinStar
- 80 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 80: Going for Value with Matt Hunt
- 81 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 81: Bracelet Winner Ryan Leng on Bad Call
- 82 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 82: Romeopro33 Recounts XL Eclipse Victory
- 83 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 83: Men The Master Doesn't Get Paid
- 84 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 84: Harman Hits Back-to-Back Miracle Turns
- 85 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 85: Jamie Kerstetter on Dealing with Bounties
- 86 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 86: Matt Stout Develops a Limp Dynamic
- 87 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 87: Matt Alexander Caught in Between w/ Two Red Aces
- 88 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 88: John Beauprez on Why He Folded a Set of Jacks
- 89 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 89: Alex Aqel Lets Opponent Hang Himself with Aces
- 90 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 90: David Peters Makes Beastly Call Against Will Givens
- 91 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 91: Poker Lessons from a Game of Risk
- 92 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 92: My Upstuck Diagnosis by the CLC Squad
- 93 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 93: Alex Foxen Coolers Nick Petrangelo in SHRB
- 94 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 94: My $25,000 PSPC Experience at 2019 PCA
- 95 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 95: The Equity of Leveraging Time Extensions
- 96 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 96: Dan O'Brien on Developing Healthy Routines
- 97 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 97: Big Hands From the WSOP-C Potawatomi
- 98 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 98: Simon Deadman Rips Apart My NLH Tourney Play
- 99 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 99: Shoving 10-6 Smack Dab Into Pocket Aces
- 100 Hold'em with Holloway, Vol. 100: The Revived Re-Entries Debate